We hear more from Chase Iron Eyes in this episode. He talks about how boarding school survivors in South Dakota don't have legal redress for abuses that occurred over 40 years ago. He also shares his view that churches should be involved in the cultural preservation of Indigenous knowledge systems and languages. He believes that along with this, there is an obligation for churches to evolve their own ways of knowing. He also sees giving land back as a way that churches can participate in reconciliation. We also discuss "Land Back" in a broader sense, and how he views this principle that can be implemented in a variety of ways. He speaks on Israel's relationship with Palestine and the similarities to the United States Government's relationship with the Indigenous population.